This is how the debate about Dynamo fans and the problem of violence unfolded

This is how the debate about Dynamo fans and the problem of violence unfolded

How do I prevent rampage in Dynamo games? Saxony’s Minister of the Interior wants a discussion on personalized banknotes and pyrotechnics. But without the will of the supporters to change, it will not work.

How do I prevent the Dynamo from being unleashed? Ronald Bec, head of the Dresden ventilator project, Dynamos managing director Jürgen Wehlend, Dresden police chief Lutz Rodig and Saxony Interior Minister Armin Schuster (left to right) discussed it.
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Dresden. The five participants discussed for almost two hours the subject “Dynamos fans and the problem of violence”, and at the end they were allowed to formulate a wish for one of their neighbors on the podium of the Hotel Penck in Dresden. Most of them wanted the dialogue that had just begun to continue – with the visor open.

This wording popped up again and again on Wednesday night. “It took long enough,” Dresden police chief Lutz Rodig said. “But now we really have to talk about everything without prejudice, there must be no prohibitions on thinking and there must be a really honest dialogue,” he demanded. Saxony’s Interior Minister Armin Schuster added very specific points to this request: “There should be an open discussion about personalized tickets, about pyrotechnics, about swearing like bull-pigs”, a- he demanded.

Schuster stimulates the debate on personalized tickets

The trigger for the round table at the invitation of the Sächsische Zeitung and Sächsische.de as well as new forms of conversation between the participants were incidents at Dynamo’s away game in Bayreuth on 1 October. But the view dated back even further – particularly to the riots surrounding the May 16, 2021 promotion game against Türkgücü Munich, when 185 officials were injured outside the Rudolf Harbig stadium.

In view of the video footage, Dresden police chief Lutz Rodig spoke of “partly civil war-like conditions” and listed the successes of Soko Hauptallee’s investigation: The public prosecutor’s office had issued 180 charges or penal orders, so far there have been 64 final convictions. “We believe the investigation will be completed by the middle of the year.”

Dresden Police Chief Lutz Rodig and Saxony Interior Minister Armin Schuster (left to right) discuss the topic during the Sächsische.de roundtable

Dresden’s Chief of Police Lutz Rodig and Saxony’s Interior Minister Armin Schuster (left to right) speak at the Sächsische.de panel discussion on “Dynamos fans and the problem of violence”.
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Schuster has made it clear how bad the club’s national image is. He is regularly asked about the dynamo by his colleagues – and not about sports results. The association is the subject of conferences of interior ministers and sports ministers. “What I feel is that if we don’t get the curve here, then others will, then others will step in. The DFB hasn’t even come out with the big cutlery yet,” explained the CDU politician and presented personalized tickets without specifically requiring their introduction.

“They’re not a threat. And what’s so bad about them anyway? The club should invest, but on the other hand it might avoid DFB fines, which were much higher recently,” he said.

Away tickets are on sale again

Danny Graupner of Black and Yellow Help, which advises Dynamo supporters in disputes with the law, doubts such an effect. According to him, personalized tickets have been around for a long time, as it is difficult to buy them without ID, neither online nor at stadium ticket offices. At the entrances, however, the tickets and the name of the stadium visitor have not yet been compared.

Moderator Tino Meyer (Head of SZ Sport) talks to Danny Graupner of the Black and Yellow Help, Dresden Fan Project Manager Ronald Bec and Dynamo Managing Director Jürgen Wehlend.

Moderator Tino Meyer (Head of SZ Sport) talks to Danny Graupner of the Black and Yellow Help, Dresden Fan Project Manager Ronald Bec and Dynamo Managing Director Jürgen Wehlend.
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Dynamo general manager Jürgen Wehlend has announced a change in away games: after the incidents in Bayreuth only tickets have been sold to members, from the January 22 match at VfB Oldenburg they will be at new on sale. Wehlend spoke of the close exchange with his own supporters. “We regularly sit at the table with them. There is something happening in many places that is not yet seen in public,” he explained, but also said: “As a club, we cannot solve it alone. The key question will be: can we really involve the fans?

Change only works with fans

Police chairman Rodig argued along the same lines: “All changes can only be made with the fans. If they don’t support it, it can’t be successful,” he explained. . “You have to get out of the behavioral pattern: after an incident, everyone is affected, but then not much happens.”

Something happened after Bayreuth, not only Wehlend pointed this out, but also Ronald Beć, head of the Dresden fan project, referring to the meeting of fans at the cinema in Dresden and the joint statement in which the riots have been strongly criticized. But you shouldn’t be wrong either, warned Bec. “You can’t turn it off completely. It would be unreal. But you can reduce the likelihood of such incidents.

And this is possible only with a dialogue – with an open visor.

Full video discussion:

Discuss:

  • Armin Schuster, Minister of the Interior of Saxony
  • Jürgen Wehlend, general manager of Dynamo Dresden
  • Dresden Police Chief Lutz Rodig
  • Dresden Fan Project Manager Ronald Beć
  • Danny Graupner of Black and Yellow Help.

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